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adopted these arts as veils or disguises because they were afraid of



the odium which they would incur。 But that is not my way; for I do not



believe that they effected their purpose; which was to deceive the



government; who were not blinded by them; and as to the people; they



have no understanding; and only repeat what their rulers are pleased



to tell them。 Now to run away; and to be caught in running away; is



the very height of folly; and also greatly increases the



exasperation of mankind; for they regard him who runs away as a rogue;



in addition to any other objections which they have to him; and



therefore I take an entirely opposite course; and acknowledge myself



to be a Sophist and instructor of mankind; such an open



acknowledgement appears to me to be a better sort of caution than



concealment。 Nor do I neglect other precautions; and therefore I hope;



as I may say; by the favour of heaven that no harm will come of the



acknowledgment that I am a Sophist。 And I have been now many years



in the profession…for all my years when added up are many: there is no



one here present of whom I might not be the father。 Wherefore I should



much prefer conversing with you; if you want to speak with me; in



the presence of the company。



  As I suspected that he would like to have a little display and



glorification in the presence of Prodicus and Hippias; and would



gladly show us to them in the light of his admirers; I said: But why



should we not summon Prodicus and Hippias and their friends to hear



us?



  Very good; he said。



  Suppose; said Callias; that we hold a council in which you may sit



and discuss。…This was agreed upon; and great delight was felt at the



prospect of hearing wise men talk; we ourselves took the chairs and



benches; and arranged them by Hippias; where the other benches had



been already placed。 Meanwhile Callias and Alcibiades got Prodicus out



of bed and brought in him and his companions。



  When we were all seated; Protagoras said: Now that the company are



assembled; Socrates; tell me about the youngman of whom you were



just now speaking。



  I replied: I will begin again at the same point; Protagoras; and



tell you once more the purport of my visit: this is my friend



Hippocrates; who is desirous of making your acquaintance; he would



like to know what will happen to him if he associates with you。 I have



no more to say。



  Protagoras answered: Young man; if you associate with me; on the



very first day you will return home a better man than you came; and



better on the second day than on the first; and better every day



than you were on the day before。



  When I heard this; I said: Protagoras; I do not at all wonder at



hearing you say this; even at your age; and with all your wisdom; if



any one were to teach you what you did not know before; you would



become better no doubt: but please to answer in a different way…I will



explain how by an example。 Let me suppose that Hippocrates; instead of



desiring your acquaintance; wished to become acquainted with the young



man Zeuxippus of Heraclea; who has lately been in Athens; and he had



come to him as he has come to you; and had heard him say; as he has



heard you say; that every day he would grow and become better if he



associated with him: and then suppose that he were to ask him; 〃In



what shall I become better; and in what shall I grow?〃…Zeuxippus would



answer; 〃In painting。〃 And suppose that he went to Orthagoras the



Theban; and heard him say the same thing; and asked him; 〃In what



shall I become better day by day?〃 he would reply; 〃In flute…playing。〃



Now I want you to make the same sort of answer to this young man and



to me; who am asking questions on his account。 When you say that on



the first day on which he associates with you he will return home a



better man; and on every day will grow in like manner;…In what;



Protagoras; will he be better? and about what?



  When Protagoras heard me say this; he replied: You ask questions



fairly; and I like to answer a question which is fairly put。 If



Hippocrates comes to me he will not experience the sort of drudgery



with which other Sophists are in the habit of insulting their



pupils; who; when they have just escaped from the arts; are taken



and driven back into them by these teachers; and made to learn



calculation; and astronomy; and geometry; and music (he gave a look at



Hippias as he said this); but if he comes to me; he will learn that



which he comes to learn。 And this is prudence in affairs private as



well as public; he will learn to order his own house in the best



manner; and he will be able to speak and act for the best in the



affairs of the state。



  Do I understand you; I said; and is your meaning that you teach



the art of politics; and that you promise to make men good citizens?



  That; Socrates; is exactly the profession which I make。



  Then; I said; you do indeed possess a noble art; if there is no





mistake about this; for I will freely confess to you; Protagoras; that



I have a doubt whether this art is capable of being taught; and yet



I know not how to disbelieve your assertion。 And I ought to tell you



why I am of opinion that this art cannot be taught or communicated



by man to man。 I say that the Athenians are an understanding people;



and indeed they are esteemed to be such by the other Hellenes。 Now I



observe that when we are met together in the assembly; and the



matter in hand relates to building; the builders are summoned as



advisers; when the question is one of shipbuilding; then the



ship…wrights; and the like of other arts which they think capable of



being taught and learned。 And if some person offers to give them



advice who is not supposed by them to have any skill in the art;



even though he be good…looking; and rich; and noble; they will not



listen to him; but laugh and hoot at him; until either he is clamoured



down and retires of himself; or if he persist; he is dragged away or



put out by the constables at the command of the prytanes。 This is



their way of behaving about professors of the arts。 But when the



question is an affair of state; then everybody is free to have a



say…carpenter; tinker; cobbler; sailor; passenger; rich and poor; high



and low…any one who likes gets up; and no one reproaches him; as in



the former case; with not having learned; and having no teacher; and



yet giving advice; evidently because they are under the impression



that this sort of knowledge cannot be taught。 And not only is this



true of the state; but of individuals; the best and wisest of our



citizens are unable to impart their political wisdom to others: as for



example; Pericles; the father of these young men; who gave them



excellent instruction in all that could be learned from masters; in



his own department of politics neither taught them; nor gave them



teachers; but they were allowed to wander at their own free will in



a sort of hope that they would light upon virtue of their own



accord。 Or take another example: there was Cleinias the younger



brother of our friend Alcibiades; of whom this very same Pericles



was the guardian; and he being in fact under the apprehension that



Cleinias would be corrupted by Alcibiades; took him away; and placed



him in the house of Ariphron to be educated; but before six months had



elapsed; Ariphron sent him back; not knowing what to do with him。



And I could mention numberless other instances of persons who were



good themselves; and never yet made any one else good; whether



friend or stranger。 Now I; Protagoras; having these examples before



me; am inclined to think that virtue cannot be taught。 But then again;



when I listen to your words; I waver; and am disposed to think that



there must be something in what you say; because I know that you



have great experience; and learning; and invention。 And I wish that



you would; if possible; show me a little more clearly that virtue



can be taught。 Will you be so good?



  That I will; Socrates; and gladly。 But what would you like? Shall I;



as an elder; speak to you as younger men in an apologue or myth; or



shall I argue out the question?



  To this several of the company answered that he should choose for



himself。



  Well; then; he said; I think that the myth will be more interesting。



  Once upon a time there were gods only; and no mortal creatures。



But when the time came that these also should be created; the gods



fashioned them out of earth and fire and various mixtures of both



elements in the interior of the earth; and when they were about to



bring them into the light of day; they ordered Prometheus and



Epimetheus to equip them; and to distribute to them severally their



proper qualities。 Epimetheus said to Prometheus: 〃Let me distribute;



and do you inspect。〃 This was agreed; and Epimetheus made the



distribution。 There were some to whom he gave strength without



swiftness; while he equipped the weaker with swiftness; some he armed;



and others he left unarmed; and devised for the latter some other



means of preservation; making some large; and having their size as a



protection; and others small; whose nature was to fly in the air or



burrow in the ground; this was to be their way of escape。 Thus did



he compensate them with the view of preventing any race from



becoming extinct。 And when he had provided against their destruction



by one another; he contrived also a means of protecting them against



the seasons of heaven; clothing them with close hair and thick skins



sufficient to defend them against the winter cold and able to resist



the summer heat; so that they might have a natural bed of their own



when they wanted to rest; also he furnished them with hoofs and hair


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